13/11/2020
NEWS STORY
Today's press conference with Franz Tost, Frederic Vasseur and Marcin Budkowski.
Fred can we start with you? First impressions of Istanbul Park. What conclusions can we draw after FP1?
Frederic Vasseur: It was a good session on the ice! It was a very tricky one for everybody. I think it was almost difficult to keep the car on track, but it will improve during the weekend and it will be more a question of the weather forecast and something else for tomorrow.
What about the feedback from the drivers? Were they enjoying the fact that it was an ice rink?
FV: I don't know if enjoy is the right word, because it was too slippery this morning but at least the layout of the track, and the track is a very good one... I remember the race 10 years ago, it was always good events and I am pleased to be back in Istanbul.
Sauber are celebrating 500 races this weekend. You've run your own teams in the junior categories, you've worked for Renault in the UK - what makes Sauber different?
FV: It's in Switzerland, first, that's a big difference! Seriously, it's an important milestone for the company. I'm not a big fan of numbers and statistics and so on, but if you have a look back, to do 500 races, for a company it's a huge achievement. It was not always easy, it was sometimes very difficult, sometimes successful, but at least the company did very well over the last 25 years in F1, 27, and 50 years in motor racing. It's a great feeling for the company today.
What about for you? Are you proud to have the responsibility of leading a team with so much heritage?
FV: Yeah, but you know it's a picture of today. I'm more... very happy for Peter. He launched the company 50 years ago and it's more an achievement for him than for myself.
Franz, let's start with your impressions of Istanbul Park?
Franz Tost: First of all we are happy to be back at this fantastic race track. Of course today the cars didn't have so much grip out there but it was also exciting to see Formula 1 cars sliding around. It was a result of the new surface and the low temperatures, therefore it is difficult to get temperature into the tyres but in the last 20-25 minutes of FP1 the cars looked quite stable and I think in FP2 and tomorrow and also for Sunday everything will work in the way as we expect.
Now Franz, if I could take you back to last week where F2 star Yuki Tsunoda tested one of your cars at Imola. Could you just give us a resume of how he got on?
FT: He got on very well. He was immediately familiar with the car, with the brakes, with the G-forces, with the steering. He gave good technical feedback, good co-operation with the engineers, no crash, no spin. He did a really good job.
Was he quick?
FT: He was also quick, yes. Otherwise he wouldn't have driven.
Now, looking ahead to this weekend and the rest of the season, the battle in Constructors championship - can you catch Ferrari in sixth place or was Gasly's retirement at Imola a hammer blow for you guys?
FT: Of course, the retirement of Pierre at Imola was a big disadvantage but nevertheless there are another four races to go and we will score as many points as possible and if it's more than Ferrari, if we can overtake them it's fantastic but it's not our main goal. We want to finish the races in the points and to score as many points as possible.
Can we say, on recent performances, whether you think you have the third fastest car?
FT: This, I would doubt. If everything is working together I think that Racing Point's car is a little faster, also the Renault is very fast. But we are close to all these teams, also to McLaren and then it depends on the different race specs, on the track layout whether we get together from the set-up and how we can get the tyre under control but I'm quite confident for here and for the rest of the season.
Marcin, so, who has the third fastest car in Formula 1? You guys are involved in a tremendous battle for P3 in the Constructors' championship.
Marcin Budkowski: I think it's difficult to say. I think, as Franz was saying, it depends a little bit on the weekend and on the conditions. Certainly it's a very very tight fight for P3. Renault are one point ahead of Racing Point and McLaren so it's difficult to imagine a tighter battle. We've lost valuable points to reliability the last few races which is something we're not happy about and we are working very hard to get that back under control because that could be the deciding the factor. It's good to have a fast car but you need to have a reliable car to score the points. I think, here it's been... just judging by this morning, we've had a particularly difficult start this morning on the very low grip track, it's a bit like Portimao to the power of ten so it's going to be an interesting afternoon session for us to try to recover the control over the tyres and therefore a decent pace.
You talk about reliable car, quick car; can I just ask you: what has been the key to unlocking the potential of this year's RS20, because since Spa, really, the car has flown? What was the trigger point?
MB: I think it's a combination. I think the car is clearly a better car than we had last year. We addressed some of the major weaknesses we had on last year's car. We've made good progress during the season, we've made good upgrades and that's obviously pushed us forward in the pecking order, but we've also understood the car better and I wouldn't call it a breakthrough but it was progressive learning and understanding of the car and therefore in parallel, you understand the car better and you improve it and when all these things come together you start to perform better and we're in such a tight group, the differences are so small in the midfield cars that by being in the front of the group, you're taking the opportunities such as podiums as we've seen such as the big points.
And Daniel, in particular, is flying at the moment. How much will you miss him in 2021?
MB: He's at the top of his form, he's driving exceptionally well and that shows in the team results but also in his personal results so of course we will miss him but we will also miss the character. He's a smiley, engaging character which is a pleasure to work with him. Daniel walks in the room and suddenly the mood in the room picks up because his smile and his enthusiasm is infectious.
(Luke Smith - Autosport) Marcin, about Fernando Alonso and his plans for next year. Obviously he's got a test coming up in Abu Dhabi - it's been announced by the team. I just want to know how you saw the simulation has been going, what kind of feedback has he been giving you so far and I guess what more plans do you have for him in terms of getting up to speed between now and the end of the season?
MB: So yeah, Fernando drove two days the 2018 car in Bahrain and he will do another two days on the 2018 car again in Abu Dhabi over the weekend. He's also done a filming day on the 2020 car so he's taking every opportunity to drive. We had tests planned for young drivers, for the academy, with the '18 so we just added some days to get Fernando to drive, so that was a good opportunity. He wants more days in the car, he wants more days in the car to get used to the team, to get used to the systems, the procedures, to fine tune his seating position, the steering wheel, everything. But also he hasn't driven the car for two years and they are bloody fast cars - sorry for the wording - and then he needs to get back in shape, get back in the rhythm so he's taking any opportunity he can to drive. In terms of his enthusiasm, in terms of his determination, he's been at the factory, obviously, to do some seat fittings and it was an opportunity... I took him round the factory to show him how things had changed since he was there in Enstone a number of years ago and obviously a lot has changed since then and his motivation is incredible, he's really asking everybody, pushing and you spend a few minutes with him and you're straightaway... you're more motivated so it's great for the staff to be exposed to someone like this who is not only a great champion but also is so motivated for next year and the next years to come.
And Marcin, what has impressed you the most about Fernando Alonso?
MB: It's this, the determination, his curiosity. He's asking about anything. We were in the wind tunnel and he said 'so, you can't run the '22 at the moment?' And we said no, we can't do it, because of the regulations. 'So when can you start developing?' And we said first of January. 'OK, are you running on the first of January?' And we said normally we don't but this year we might because it's New Year, you know? And he said 'yeah, OK, we have to run on the first of January. I will come here and help you on the first of January.' So this is the level of motivation of Fernando at the moment.
(Scott Mitchell - The Race) Follow-up question to Marcin on Fernando: obviously he's got more running in the 2018 car and try to run him as much as possible but what can he actually learn driving the 2018 car? What are the limitations and just generally how impressive has it been how he seeks every last little bit of detail he can get from anything he throws himself into as he prepares for his comeback?
MB: As I said, partly it is him wanting to get back in shape and get back in the rhythm of driving a car but it's an opportunity to drive... to work with him on things like the steering wheel, his favourite button position, how he wants to be able to activate all the differences in the car, practise our procedures. It seems simple but the more we practise these things, the more we have to do during the winter testing. We only have three days of running for our two drivers in winter testing next year so practising FIA procedures, all the various things that he will need to have under his belt, but maybe different from what he experienced before and also getting accustomed to the team but the car is different, it's our 2018 car, we've improved quite a lot since '18 but it's the same DNA of the car, the '20 car is a better car but at the end of the day, getting him used to a Renault car, even if it's a two year old car, is beneficial.
Check out our Friday gallery from Istanbul, here.
(Mario Luini - Revue Automobil) Fred, at Imola Romain Grosjean revealed that the Haas has been suffering all season with overheating rear suspension, relating to the power unit and it's affecting the behaviour of the car. Do you have a similar problem on the C39?
FV: Absolutely not. Sorry.
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(Dieter Rencken - Racing Lines) To all three: on the Monday after Portimao, there were discussions about potentially banning wind tunnels from 2030 onwards. Some of you have got state-of-the-art facilities, some of you are rebuilding and Marcin, I believe that your speciality is aerodynamics. How do you feel about this? Is it possible? Could one actually do away with wind tunnels entirely and rely only on CFD?
MB: It's not a new topic, it's been talked about for a little while. I think the key on this kind of significant technical infrastructure is to do it with enough anticipation. Today, wind tunnels are an essential part of the development of a Formula 1 car and the risk by doing everything with CFD so in numerical simulation is that you get to the first race and the car behaves completely differently from what you expect and you have a hard time actually getting back on track so the risk is that people just lose the corelation with the track and a tunnel is an important element of this. Now, Formula 1 loves a challenge and I think if you tell us that in ten years' time we're going to move away from something that's an essential part of the development, because we're going to have to ramp up the simulation part of it, I think it's do-able. Every time the topic came up before it was 'let's ban them in two years', 'let's ban them in three years and that just wasn't realistic so as an objective for ten years' time, which is in line with the sustainability message that we're building around Formula 1, I think it's a realistic prospect. It's still, over that period of time, it's a challenge and it will change a lot in the way we develop cars.
FV: I think, as Marcin said, it's very challenging for us. We've discussed this topic a couple of times. The conclusion now is that we could imagine to do it for 2030 but even like this, to develop the car, full based on the cfd project, it's very ambitious. Marcin spoke about the safety and so on and it's true that it's a characteristic of the corelation that to launch the car on the track at the beginning of February or March without doing any development in the wind tunnel or corelation in the wind tunnel could be a bit tricky but we also spoke that we could imagine to have a wind tunnel time that a short period of development on the wind tunnel, 1-to-1 scale for example. For sure it's a challenge but I think the F1 is focused on the challenge and it makes sense to imagine something like this, if it's sufficiently anticipated in ten years' time is a good lead time for this kind of project, I think. So yes, why not? It could be ambitious for F1 but it makes sense.
FT: Yes. Until 2030 there's a long anticipation time and cfd will develop quite rapidly. You can see it or you could see it in the last years and A from harder side and B from the softer side, that means in part, nine to ten years, I expect that this technology has reached such a high level that you don't need any more a wind tunnel.
(Dieter Rencken - Racing Lines) Franz, what is your situation with engines? Has there been any development whatsoever for 2022 onwards? Are you hopeful of getting the Honda IP? Are you going to Renault? What are your plans at this stage please?
FT: Still everything is under discussion and nothing has been decided yet and as soon as we know more, we will, of course, publish it.
(Edd Straw - The Race) To all three: there are a couple of triple-headers on next year's calendar but when we had a triple-header a few years ago there was a feeling that it wasn't a great idea, it wasn't very popular, although they've been necessary for this year, it does seem that the fact that they are on next year's calendar suggests that they are going to be a fact of life for Formula 1. Do you think that's a good thing, how much of a challenge is it in terms of overloading personnel and do you think that perhaps F1 should find a way to cut back on the triple-headers and not make them normal in the long term?
FT: I went through, with our team manager, on the calendar and we analysed everything. It's possible but it's on the limit because we must not forget that people are out sometimes for three weeks and that's really a long period and I think what's currently in the calendar is the absolute limit and should not be extended.
FV: Yeah, I think the main issue is that if you want to put 23 races in eight months that you have no other option. I'm a bit more concerned about the second one with Sochi, Singapore and Japan also because it's close to the end of the season. It's a flyaway and for the mechanics, for the team and also for the stock of spare parts it won't be an easy one but I think that we have no other option if we want to do 23 races per year.
MB: I think not much to add. One triple-header is painful for the staff, two triple-headers, one after the other is even more difficult. My understanding, from some of the discussions that took place with Formula 1 is that it was intentional to back-load the calendar if you want to have more races, concentrated at the back of the season for the obvious COVID situation and therefore less risks taken on the early races so hopefully, again, that's a consequence of the current situation and an extension of the 2021 changes that were made and that's not a constant feature. Equally, we've preserved the summer shutdown which I think is essential, especially for the travelling staff.
Check out our Friday gallery from Istanbul, here.